Just to clarify the current progress: we are now trying to simplify the UI for new users. Our next goal is to bring back the features that users need, keeping the UI simple.

Super wrote:Missing the option "Start minimized" - at the start of the download should only pop up a window with download of the file, and the main window should be in the system tray.

One of our key ideas was to get rid of multiple popup windows. If you download something with FDM 3, you may get 3 or 4 windows at a time, even if you don't need them at all, you just want to download a file! Some windows can be easily closed, some can't: you try to close one, it's not closed, instead, another window appears like this one:

and so on. This default behavior is unacceptable, even if these windows make sense for some people in some cases.

Now, about the separate popup window to add download. Does a big window like the one below really make you uncomfortable?

Does it overlap some important info, or so? Or, it's just not that you're used to? Please describe your problem in details, we can't get it.

Can/will all features be available?
Also why is the size so big?
And please give us a Linux version(native & portable)

In FDM 3.x popup after click link for download, start without main window program.
First starting download in FDM 5 the main window shows a unnecessarily, because then you have to minimize them to the system tray.

Agree. No reason to show main window. Display only the new download add info. Nothing wrong with being a big window with preview etc. I really like the way it is on the image you posted, but really, no reason to show main window on top only to make me minimize it again after clicking OK.

yedvuu wrote:Can/will all features be available?

There are 2 steps:
1. You list the features you really need.
2. We implement the features you really need.

yedvuu wrote:Also why is the size so big?

First, we need some HTML UI framework for upcoming new amazing features. It's mostly about incredibly seamless integration with browsers. For Windows, it's CEF 3, it's nearly 20 Mbytes. For Mac, we use a system browser (maybe we'll do it on Windows, too).
Another 10 Mbytes are Qt libs. We need some stable cross-platform core libs, Qt looked like the best choice so far. We got a lot of problems with wininet on FDM 3.
And media converter takes 7 Mbytes (pretty much the same as in FDM 3).

yedvuu wrote:And please give us a Linux version(native & portable)

It's surely possible, it's in our future plans.

Super wrote:In FDM 3.x popup after click link for download, start without main window program.
First starting download in FDM 5 the main window shows a unnecessarily, because then you have to minimize them to the system tray.

Guest wrote:Agree. No reason to show main window. Display only the new download add info. Nothing wrong with being a big window with preview etc. I really like the way it is on the image you posted, but really, no reason to show main window on top only to make me minimize it again after clicking OK.

So, you mean, it's not about the window size, it's about the unnecessary click to close/minimize that window after a new download is added?

@D. Yessa

Yes, The option "Run minimized" should work in General. As the FDM 3. xxx. Not only at startup with Windows.

yedvuu wrote:
And please give us a Linux version(native & portable)


It's surely possible, it's in our future plans.

Glad it is hope o see a native & portable version soon(even alpha to test)

Regarding features i guess i used nearly all features of 3.x , FDM is so feature rich that other DM don't even compare to it.
So hoping you guys add all features from 3.x(not all at once).

Also just a request that can we make it look like 3.x?? I personally like it's UI more to my liking.

Version 5.1.2 released.

"Force recheck" option, some stability fixes, and more.

VVS wrote:Periodically crash module wincomserver.exe.
You need dumps?

Please send us the new dumps from v5.1.2+.

It would be interesting to manually set a default folder for each tag.
Ex. Tags:. Torrents> A folder
Youtube> Videos Folder

D. Yessa wrote:So, you mean, it's not about the window size, it's about the unnecessary click to close/minimize that window after a new download is added?

Exactly. Open just the new download info window, no need for the main UI to load behind it. About the size, Modern Design and Material Design are all about big notifications anyway. I see no problem it staying the way it is on your screenshot. I like big icons and clean and clear info

The download link is not for all. So I can not give here. It requires User ID and password. Really sorry for that. The link is of mp3 audio file. But if I will get same problem on other link, I shall give you.

Guest wrote:

D. Yessa wrote:So, you mean, it's not about the window size, it's about the unnecessary click to close/minimize that window after a new download is added?

Exactly. Open just the new download info window, no need for the main UI to load behind it. About the size, Modern Design and Material Design are all about big notifications anyway. I see no problem it staying the way it is on your screenshot. I like big icons and clean and clear info

I would like to see progress window like in fdm3.

hi sir

we need download button beside any video in youtube or other site same youtube same like IDM ( internet download manager ) this will be great

thx

D. Yessa wrote:

Super wrote:In FDM 3.x popup after click link for download, start without main window program.
First starting download in FDM 5 the main window shows a unnecessarily, because then you have to minimize them to the system tray.

Guest wrote:Agree. No reason to show main window. Display only the new download add info. Nothing wrong with being a big window with preview etc. I really like the way it is on the image you posted, but really, no reason to show main window on top only to make me minimize it again after clicking OK.

So, you mean, it's not about the window size, it's about the unnecessary click to close/minimize that window after a new download is added?

Hi D.Yessa ,

As you've asked about this I 100% agree with Guest.

I have from time to time tried to move from 3.9.x to 5.1 but have always returned within hours due to lack of settings I want that do not exist yet in 5.1. One example is I like showing a file that is being in the process of being downloaded (not hidden) and with a suffix on incomplete. Then I know if it has stopped or failed or is still being downloaded. If downloads were some time before I immediately know which are no good and which were successful.

with regard to the downloads. The ONLY window I use with 3.9.x is the "show downloads info while in progress". I set its size to show 2 rows at one time and place in in bottom right corner. I LIKE to see how downloads are progressing (especially when large file sizes which will take time. I am not interested in seeing the main screen and do not wish to see it (unless I wish to see more info for some reason during the download or am analysing or making settings changes). FDM is a highly important and useful utility to me but it is not something I wish covering a large section of my screen with when I want it mostly in the background (as I am sure most users do).

I do NOT wish to have to hide the Main Window when setting up a download or while it is in progress as I get on with other things that I do wish to see on screen.
The 3.9.x "show downloads info while in progress" window is perfect showing basic download info I do want to see it and when completed, it asks me if I wish to open the downloaded file. Being flexibly small I can tuck it away on my 1920x1080 screen and still have all I want open and visible at the same time.. I wish to see that as is in 5.1 and that is my number one setting wish.

May I offer a couple of intended to be proactive comments:
Users see things differently from what Developers often do which may not seem logical or of same priority to a programmer. BUT Users are what all apps are intended for (except dev tools, languages etc. ).
Your team is 100% correct in catering for a simple and more modern GUI and the huge numbers of Users who just want downloads to work without needing to understand or make settings will really appreciate it. However, there are huge numbers of Users of FDM who like and want the ability to fine tune settings as they desire, to meet their specific needs. IMHO I feel sure most of the Users still sticking with 3.9.x are of this thinking (as I am) and that 5.1 from many a 3.9.x Users point of view is currently too "dumbed down" and visibly intrusive when setting up and doing a download).

Does 5.1 need to be black or white. Why can't it provide most of the settings in 3.9.x 5.1.
By all means set defaults (as you do in 3.9.x) but allow Users who want, to be able, to make their own settings they desire. Currently 5.1 seems to be mostly catering for modern design, x-platform and easy to use for beginners. I fully appreciate it is still in Beta and that the Dev. team say it plans to add more settings in due course based on User desires
Why are they not part of 5.1 Beta already? I feel many popular ones should ALREADY be obvious and known to Developers, based on what people wanted and liked in 3.x.x builds over the years. I ask because, if you wish more FDM Users to use and User test 5.1, then they need to be able to work with it doing mostly doing what they need at the outset. How many, like me, are holding back and only taking infrequent looks at 5.1 and therefore not giving valuable testing input because they feel it is currently too limited on User settings options, some of which they really want.

You may recall some time back members were asking why they could not choose a download folder during 5.1 alpha days. That alone made me uninstall 5.1, it as I consider that a fundamental basic requirement that I feel most would want.

I seem to recall reading that some settings features of 3.9.x (please forgive me if I am mistaken) are difficult to provide in 5.1 due to x-platform requirements and issues. I fully understand why you wish x-platform, but those users that do not need x-platform will only be thinking that they have less features than they had with 3.9.x. Unless the settings issues are resolved I feel many users will stick with 3.9.x until such time as Development Support ends and it stops functioning.

I believe if you wish Users to migrate to 5.1 "en masse" then the Dev. team needs to add as many of the most important and useful 3.9.x settings into 5.1 as soon as possible, then there will be no reason for 3.9.x Users not to switch.

My final thought D.Yessa, is that having multiple settings in 5.1 will NOT make it harder to use provided you have set defaults and the GUI is simple and FDM 5.1 operates easily with minimal knowledge without making any settings changes (or very minimal) . Those who DO wish to "fine tune" 5.1 should be able to do so the Settings cog wheel.

I feel there has been a reluctance and slow progress to offer many more settings options already in 3.x.x hence the lack of enthusiasm from some. I feel whilst there will always be the "Old is better" and "I don't like change" Users, I do feel the many concerns about lack of settings options in FDM 5.1 are 100% valid and I personally feel the nice looking GUI is too much in your face and large (far better would be an option to hide it more, unless desired to be seen ). Is it large like to accommodate none PC platforms such as Tablets and Smart phones? If so that would explain a lot. As I am a PC User only, with formerly a 19 inch and now a 21 inch monitor, I do not need a large FDM App Window and less visibility is much more desirable.

D. Yessa, FDM 3.x.x has been my most used and loved app over the years and I am looking forward to 5.1 becoming my most loved and used app in due course.
I thank you and all the Team for what you have done for us over the years and will continue to do. its much appreciated.

IMPORTANT EDIT (2nd Feb 2016) TO THE NEXT PARA ONLY JUST NOTICED. I must have accidentally cut out the final part of the sentence in my OP

I look forward to migrating to 5.1 but cannot yet until the "more settings" people are requesting are incorporated in 5.1 and for me the ability to have the 3.9.x style of window for "show downloads info while in progress"

I offer my sincere apologies to all, and especially the Dev. Team for giving an original impression that I was wanting the 3.9.x style throughout 5.1 which is NOT the case

Kind regards to all the Dev. Team